Finding Agreement

reconnecting-friendsI recently came across someone on a FaceBook forum supporting Calvinism. He stated, “The Bible nor Calvinist do not hold to fatalism as assumed and inferred by those criticizing or misinformed.” He went on stating that anyone not agreeing with him therefore believes that man is superior to God. A list of various scriptures in support of “a non-guilty God [ordaining] his own purpose[s]” was provided. One verse listed was a portion of Eph 1:11 “…the purpose of Him who works all things according to the counsel of his will.”

For the record, the Eph 1:11 in the NIV says, “In him we were also chosen, having been predestined according to the plan of him who works out everything in conformity with the purpose of his will.”

I responded that he made a rather compelling argument in support of Calvinism being equated to fatalism. I also found it ironic that he would list numerous versus delineating various things God has done or otherwise controlled when his intent is to (I think) show otherwise. Whatever.

The obvious question (for me, anyway) is to understand God’s “purpose” as referenced in Eph 1:11. Looking at the entire passage (vs 1-14) a few things immediately pop out:

vs 4 – God determining that we would be holy and blameless in his sight

vs 5 – God determining that we would be adopted as his sons through Christ

vs 9 – the mystery of his “will”

vs 10 – that “will” is to be put into effect when the times will have reached their fulfillment

As I see it, Paul’s is talking about God doing away with “the law” thereby enabling both Jew and Gentile to be made right with God by God’s own sacrifice of his son through faith. To which, I see nothing in Eph 1:11 by way of Calvinistic determination or fatalism wherein God “chooses” or otherwise “elects” a select few via unconditional election. Rather, it’s God’s desire for everyone to come into fellowship with him, through Christ – by faith.

So, how is it that good-willed people can come to such different perspectives as to matters of faith? Am I simply ignorant here and lacking in understanding? Truly that can’t be the situation with regards to such as John Piper and Greg Boyd. Am I, consciously or not, choosing to make God into something that I find more palatable? I’ll plead guilty if only because I believe God’s greatest attribute is his love. Sadly (I believe) so many Calvinists I know seem to relish believing that God’s greatest attribute is his justice. I don’t understand and can’t explain it. But I find it difficult to be in fellowship with such people.

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Author: Bob

Martin’s Mercurial Musings began when I started asking deeper questions related to my Christian faith. Matters of faith became confusing and I was baffled at the disparity of doctrines beliefs given that Christian work from the same “source material” (aka the Bible). How can there be so much variance as to what Christians believe? Or more importantly, where is the truth? That which I thought I knew and believed – well, I’m not so sure anymore. Although born in OH, I grew up in Tucson AZ. After college, a job offer lured me to Eagan MN where I worked in process development at a semiconductor chip manufacturing facility over the next 40yrs. I’m now in the “Buick stage” of life (retired) and currently reside in FL. In no specific order, things which make life more enjoyable include coffee in the morning, making sawdust in the garage, roughhousing with the grandkids, playing various fretted instruments, participating in online chess tournaments, growing fresh tomatoes, and an occasional IPA. In addition to my musings on Christian faith and Calvinistic doctrines, I also like to write about my experiences in the Coast Guard along with various news, political and social items of interest. I’m truly delighted you’re here. Feel free to poke around and comment as you wish. I value the insight of others with a different perspective and welcome cordial discussions regarding any disagreements.

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